From klusais07 at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 10 20:34:39 2017
From: klusais07 at hotmail.com (Smic _)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:34:39 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] Alfa un Selespeed
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Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed. Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
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From lordramex at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 20:37:53 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:37:53 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>


From martini.zupa at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 20:56:11 2017
From: martini.zupa at gmail.com (Martins)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:56:11 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:

> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Autoliste mailing list
> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
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From vineta.rubene at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:03:53 2017
From: vineta.rubene at gmail.com (Vineta Rubene)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:03:53 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 

Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.

Vineta

Volvo S60 2001

 

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

 

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>  <lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> >:

ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com <mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

_______________________________________________
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From lordramex at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:06:40 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:06:40 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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n? ir daudzi aut oar norm?liem tom?tiem - tik eko shmeko m?le't?ju d?? tika
rad?ti robotom?ti jo nu lupo ar savu 3litri uz simtu pat?ri?u bija
superekonomisks auto kam?r darboj?s ka pien?kas, un piet?s bremzes ko
mineeja Martins arlaiku pishaavas un varejea ljoti normaal iapdziit visu ko
vajadzeeja tikai tam aparatam nedriskteeja miit pedaali griidaa - bij taka
divpakapju kikdownsjaatias :d

4 gadus nobraucis ar robottom?tu :D

M.

2017-04-10 21:03 GMT+03:00 Vineta Rubene <vineta.rubene at gmail.com>:

> Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du
> probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
>
>
> Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un
> autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par
> autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>
> Vineta
>
> Volvo S60 2001
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
> [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] *On
> Behalf Of *Martins
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Autoliste mailing list
> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
>
>
>
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From lordramex at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:09:59 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:09:59 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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un atkal raksta steidzoties un trak?k k? dakteris ar vistas k?ju :D

M.

2017-04-10 21:06 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:

> n? ir daudzi aut oar norm?liem tom?tiem - tik eko shmeko m?le't?ju d??
> tika rad?ti robotom?ti jo nu lupo ar savu 3litri uz simtu pat?ri?u bija
> superekonomisks auto kam?r darboj?s ka pien?kas, un piet?s bremzes ko
> mineeja Martins arlaiku pishaavas un varejea ljoti normaal iapdziit visu ko
> vajadzeeja tikai tam aparatam nedriskteeja miit pedaali griidaa - bij taka
> divpakapju kikdownsjaatias :d
>
> 4 gadus nobraucis ar robottom?tu :D
>
> M.
>
> 2017-04-10 21:03 GMT+03:00 Vineta Rubene <vineta.rubene at gmail.com>:
>
>> Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du
>> probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
>>
>>
>> Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un
>> autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par
>> autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>>
>> Vineta
>>
>> Volvo S60 2001
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
>> [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] *On
>> Behalf Of *Martins
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
>> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
>> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>>
>>
>>
>> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
>> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
>> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
>> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
>> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
>> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
>> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
>> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
>> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
>> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
>> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>>
>> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
>> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
>> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
>> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>>
>> M.
>>
>> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
>> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Autoliste mailing list
>> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From richlv at nakts.net  Mon Apr 10 21:12:26 2017
From: richlv at nakts.net (Rihards)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:12:26 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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On 2017.04.10. 21:09, lordramex at gmail.com wrote:
> un atkal raksta steidzoties un trak?k k? dakteris ar vistas k?ju :D

j?, p?c ?? grib?j?s nos?t?t r??inu par las??anu :D

> M.
> 
> 2017-04-10 21:06 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com
> <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> <lordramex at gmail.com
> <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>>:
> 
>     n? ir daudzi aut oar norm?liem tom?tiem - tik eko shmeko m?le't?ju
>     d?? tika rad?ti robotom?ti jo nu lupo ar savu 3litri uz simtu
>     pat?ri?u bija superekonomisks auto kam?r darboj?s ka pien?kas, un
>     piet?s bremzes ko mineeja Martins arlaiku pishaavas un varejea ljoti
>     normaal iapdziit visu ko vajadzeeja tikai tam aparatam nedriskteeja
>     miit pedaali griidaa - bij taka divpakapju kikdownsjaatias :d
> 
>     4 gadus nobraucis ar robottom?tu :D
> 
>     M.
...
-- 
 Rihards


From richlv at nakts.net  Mon Apr 10 21:13:56 2017
From: richlv at nakts.net (Rihards)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:13:56 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] =?utf-8?q?volvo_kreisie_spogul=C4=AB=C5=A1i?=
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volvo v70, 2004./2007. gadu mode?i.
kreis? spogul??a plastmasas var kaut kur labi-l?ti-vienk?r?i dab?t ?
-- 
 Rihards


From klusais07 at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:18:20 2017
From: klusais07 at hotmail.com (Smic _)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:18:20 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.:  Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Nu tas Selespeed jau it k? ir parasta saj?gk?rba ar elektronisku a??inu, kas ?auj iztikt bez saj?ga spaid??anas . Ar City re??mu, kad nav ar? klo?is j?rausta. Cit?di ? k? Ferari ar -/+ pie s?res sl?dzam atrumus.

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> darbam ar Windows 10

No: Martins<mailto:martini.zupa at gmail.com>
Nos?t?ts: pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 20:56
Kam: Viss par un ap auto!<mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> <lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>>:
ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com<mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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From lordramex at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:23:13 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:23:13 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Aha un kad ta eletrohidraulisk? fig?a aiziet pa pieskari paprasi alfas
dilerim cik jauna maks? :D

t?laj? ~2014 gad?,  2000 gada Lupo visi tie pribamb?si lai samain?tu
maks?ja ~2-2,5k atkar?b? kur pras?ja. Remont?t neviens neremont? :)

M.

2017-04-10 21:18 GMT+03:00 Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com>:

> Nu tas Selespeed jau it k? ir parasta saj?gk?rba ar elektronisku a??inu,
> kas ?auj iztikt bez saj?ga spaid??anas . Ar City re??mu, kad nav ar? klo?is
> j?rausta. Cit?di ? k? Ferari ar -/+ pie s?res sl?dzam atrumus.
>
>
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
>
>
> *No: *Martins <martini.zupa at gmail.com>
> *Nos?t?ts: *pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 20:56
> *Kam: *Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
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From klusais07 at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:42:36 2017
From: klusais07 at hotmail.com (Smic _)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:42:36 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.:  Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Nu ? visas ?rt?bas maks? ? Tikko Sebringam hidrotransformators nobira, n?c?s restaur?t ?

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> darbam ar Windows 10

No: lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>
Nos?t?ts: pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 21:24
Kam: Viss par un ap auto!<mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Aha un kad ta eletrohidraulisk? fig?a aiziet pa pieskari paprasi alfas dilerim cik jauna maks? :D

t?laj? ~2014 gad?,  2000 gada Lupo visi tie pribamb?si lai samain?tu maks?ja ~2-2,5k atkar?b? kur pras?ja. Remont?t neviens neremont? :)

M.

2017-04-10 21:18 GMT+03:00 Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com<mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com>>:
Nu tas Selespeed jau it k? ir parasta saj?gk?rba ar elektronisku a??inu, kas ?auj iztikt bez saj?ga spaid??anas . Ar City re??mu, kad nav ar? klo?is j?rausta. Cit?di ? k? Ferari ar -/+ pie s?res sl?dzam atrumus.

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> darbam ar Windows 10

No: Martins<mailto:martini.zupa at gmail.com>
Nos?t?ts: pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 20:56
Kam: Viss par un ap auto!<mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> <lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>>:
ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com<mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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From lordramex at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 21:44:55 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:44:55 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Vair?k gan jaut?jums, vai tie??m ?turmk?rbas uzparikte maks? vair?k k? pats
auto taj? br?d? tirg? :D



M.


2017-04-10 21:42 GMT+03:00 Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com>:

> Nu ? visas ?rt?bas maks? ? Tikko Sebringam hidrotransformators nobira,
> n?c?s restaur?t ?
>
>
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
>
>
> *No: *lordramex at gmail.com
> *Nos?t?ts: *pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 21:24
> *Kam: *Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Aha un kad ta eletrohidraulisk? fig?a aiziet pa pieskari paprasi alfas
> dilerim cik jauna maks? :D
>
>
>
> t?laj? ~2014 gad?,  2000 gada Lupo visi tie pribamb?si lai samain?tu
> maks?ja ~2-2,5k atkar?b? kur pras?ja. Remont?t neviens neremont? :)
>
>
>
> M.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 21:18 GMT+03:00 Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com>:
>
> Nu tas Selespeed jau it k? ir parasta saj?gk?rba ar elektronisku a??inu,
> kas ?auj iztikt bez saj?ga spaid??anas . Ar City re??mu, kad nav ar? klo?is
> j?rausta. Cit?di ? k? Ferari ar -/+ pie s?res sl?dzam atrumus.
>
>
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
>
>
> *No: *Martins <martini.zupa at gmail.com>
> *Nos?t?ts: *pirmdiena, 2017. gada 10. apr?lis 20:56
> *Kam: *Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Autoliste mailing list
> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From janis.prusis at riga.lv  Mon Apr 10 21:50:10 2017
From: janis.prusis at riga.lv (=?windows-1257?Q?J=E2nis_Pr=FBsis?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:50:10 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] ATB:  Alfa un Selespeed
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Ar ??diem jaut?jumiem lab?k v?rsties pie autofficina.lv kuru vada exlistenieks Lauris B?li??. Vi?? par alf?m var past?st?t ?oooti daudz un reiz?m ar? kaut ko ?oti noder?gu. Katr? gad?jum? es pirms gadiem 10 p?c no Laura un citiem iev?kt?m atsauksm?m no alfas salesp?d atteicos. Un j?, alfa lieto?an? diez vai b?s l?ti. Pat?kami gan.
Prusaks
Ex alfists



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Datums: 10.04.2017 20:35 (GMT+02:00)
Kam: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
T?ma: [Autoliste] Alfa un Selespeed



Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed. Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
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From janis.kopstals at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 22:24:31 2017
From: janis.kopstals at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?SsSBbmlzIEtvcMWhdMSBbHM=?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:24:31 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: ATB: Alfa un Selespeed
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2.0l TwinSpark motors kombin?cij? ar Selespeed var b?t potenci?li
problem?tisks auto. Abi mezgli neizce?as ar lab?ko uzticam?bu. TS motoram
liel?k? probl?ma m?dz rasties, ja saimnieki neseko e??as l?menim (?im
motoram ?oti nepat?k pazemin?ts e??as l?menis), vai m??ina ietaup?t uz
zobsiksnu mai?u (ja pareizi atminos j?maina vismaz ik pa 60kkm jeb 5 gadi),
ieteicams ar visiem rull??iem.
Selespeed k?rb?m m?dz b?t probl?mas ar kalibr?ciju, kad s?k izdilt saj?gs
(sitieni utml.) - t? b?t?b? ir soleno?du vad?ta standarta meh?nisk? k?rba,
kas nav ne ?tra, ne ?pa?i iztur?ga.
Vislab?k, k? jau iepriek? min?ts, v?rsties pie autofficina.lv p?c padoma,
ja ir nopietna interese par k?du Alfu.

2017. gada 10. apr?lis 21:50 J?nis Pr?sis <janis.prusis at riga.lv> rakst?ja:

> Ar ??diem jaut?jumiem lab?k v?rsties pie autofficina.lv kuru vada
> exlistenieks Lauris B?li??. Vi?? par alf?m var past?st?t ?oooti daudz un
> reiz?m ar? kaut ko ?oti noder?gu. Katr? gad?jum? es pirms gadiem 10 p?c no
> Laura un citiem iev?kt?m atsauksm?m no alfas salesp?d atteicos. Un j?, alfa
> lieto?an? diez vai b?s l?ti. Pat?kami gan.
> Prusaks
> Ex alfists
>
>
>
> -------- S?kotn?j? zi?a --------
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> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:44:47 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Par Alf?m nezinu, bet nupat g?ju cauri sievas auto mekl??anas procesam.

Autom?ts bija oblig?ti vajadz?g? ekstra.

Zvans draugam uz Adamauto (Amserev Krasta) sniedza info ka Opel robots
ir s?c, kam m?dz beigties elektrisk? vad?bas da?a un ar? saj?gs regul?ri
j?maina/j?sadraudz? ar autom?tiku.

Izbraucu ar Corsu - nepatika, sl?dz?s d?vaini. Robots uz Astras ar
liel?ku motoru jau str?d?ja OK, bet piebilde par ieberziena iesp?ju
palika, ko apstiprin?ja no ECU nolas?t?s k??das.

P?ris Mitsu Colt roboti bija piln?gi pii... Str?d?ja v?l slikt?k k?
Corsa, turkl?t viens no tiem bija nupat p?rlas?ts ar main?tu saj?gu un
vad?bas bloku.

Beig?s nopirku A mersi ar variatoru :) Tur ar sl?g?anos viss ir
lieliski, redz?s cik ilgi izvilks.

G.

On 2017.04.10. 20:34, Smic _ wrote:
> 
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed. Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
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From girts.karnitis at di.lv  Tue Apr 11 10:47:03 2017
From: girts.karnitis at di.lv (=?utf-8?Q?=C4=A2irts_?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:47:03 +0300
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Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):

1.      Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.

2.      Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.

3.      Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.

4.      Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.

 

Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.

 

Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot - 

?irts

VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)

 

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 

Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.

Vineta

Volvo S60 2001

 

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv <mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>  [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
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Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

 

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>  <lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> >:

ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com <mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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Kur tie citi tur es ar...

Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un visu
p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga atlai?anu,
p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara robots, nevis
pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana
smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?),
tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.
Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas
pl?denums bij lieliski.

Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus pils?tas
bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.

Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits
slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv> rakst?ja:

> Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu
> braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem
> un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam
> katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
>
> 1.      Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu,
> ir gana ok.
>
> 2.      Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k
> nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz?
> poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas
> ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek
> drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek?
> standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir
> autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja
> pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s
> mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien
> un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
>
> 3.      Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida
> ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k?
> ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ?
> iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet
> motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu
> optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na
> pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j
> sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet
> auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus
> ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts.
> Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir
> tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m
> un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir
> iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem,
> tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
>
> 4.      Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem
> citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem.
> Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar
> otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru
> nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir
> vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs,
> pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u,
> kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
>
>
>
> Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un
> pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki.
> Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz
> ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ?
> t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t?
> gad?juma.
>
>
>
> Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu
> lasot -
>
> ?irts
>
> VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:
> autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On Behalf Of *Vineta
> Rubene
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
> *To:* 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du
> probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
>
>
> Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un
> autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par
> autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>
> Vineta
>
> Volvo S60 2001
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [
> mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
> <autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>] *On
> Behalf Of *Martins
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:50:01 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.:  Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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TRUCK div?zij? ?is jau ir nosl?p?ts ?oti augst? l?men?. Da?i labi pasaziervageni var?tu pam?c?ties.

Ramonz,
?ad tad ACTROS pilots.

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts darbam ar Windows 10

No: Karlis
Nos?t?ts: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 11:11
Kam: Viss par un ap auto!
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Kur tie citi tur es ar...

Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un visu p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga atlai?anu, p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara robots, nevis pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?), tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.
Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas pl?denums bij lieliski.

Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus pils?tas bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.

Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv> rakst?ja:
Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
1.????? Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.
2.????? Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.? Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
3.????? Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
4.????? Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
?
Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.
?
Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot - 
?irts
VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
?
From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
?
Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 
Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
Vineta
Volvo S60 2001
?
From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
?
2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t? ? Iespaidi ?
>

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Visp?r par truckiem es ?pa?i neiedzi?in?jos, jo man lik?s, ka Vineta nez vai savu Volvo S60 grib main?t pret Volvo vilc?ju.

 

?irts

 

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com
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TRUCK div?zij? ?is jau ir nosl?p?ts ?oti augst? l?men?. Da?i labi pasaziervageni var?tu pam?c?ties.

 

Ramonz,

?ad tad ACTROS pilots.

 

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  darbam ar Windows 10

 

No: Karlis <mailto:karlisd at gmail.com> 
Nos?t?ts: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 11:11
Kam: Viss par un ap auto! <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> 
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Kur tie citi tur es ar...

 

Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un visu p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga atlai?anu, p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara robots, nevis pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?), tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.

Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas pl?denums bij lieliski.

 

Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus pils?tas bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.

 

Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)

 

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv <mailto:girts.karnitis at di.lv> > rakst?ja:

Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):

1.      Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.

2.      Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.

3.      Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.

4.      Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.

 

Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.

 

Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot - 

?irts

VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)

 

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis= <mailto:di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv> di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto: <mailto:autoliste-bounces%2Bgirts.karnitis> autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis= <mailto:di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv> di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' < <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 

Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.

Vineta

Volvo S60 2001

 

From:  <mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv> autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [ <mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv> mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
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To: Viss par un ap auto! < <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

 

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>  <lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> >:

ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com <mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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Nu pie t? punkta 2 t? ?sti piekrist nevar. Ferrari par l?tu mazma??n?ti nenosauksi ?. ?

From: ?irts <mailto:girts.karnitis at di.lv>
Sent: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!'<mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):

  1.  Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.
  2.  Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
  3.  Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
  4.  Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.

Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.

Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot -
?irts
VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
Vineta
Volvo S60 2001

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv<mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv> [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv<mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> <lordramex at gmail.com<mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>>:
ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com<mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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Bet p?c salona kvalit?tes i nepateiksi ? k? esmu las?jis, tad dikti grab un salona kvalit?te dra???g?ka ka korejie?u masu auto.

 

?irts

 

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Smic _
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 2:35 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

 

Nu pie t? punkta 2 t? ?sti piekrist nevar. Ferrari par l?tu mazma??n?ti nenosauksi ?. ?

 

From: ?irts  <mailto:girts.karnitis at di.lv> 
Sent: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> 
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):

1.	Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.
2.	Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
3.	Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
4.	Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.

 

Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.

 

Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot - 

?irts

VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)

 

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv <mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv>  [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> >
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 

Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.

Vineta

Volvo S60 2001

 

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv <mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>  [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv> >
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.

 

2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>  <lordramex at gmail.com <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> >:

ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com <mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>

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From: martini.zupa at gmail.com (Martins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:27:30 +0300
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Variatorus jau pa ?o laiku ar? ir iem?c?ju?ies. Tad kad p?cei aste
uzzied?ja un Subaru uztais?ja bokserd?zeli, tiem bija vai nu autom?ts, vai
manu?lis. Pamaz?m iem?c?j?s tais?t iztur?gus variatorus, tagad bokserd?zels
ir dab?jams ar? ar to. Apgriezienus ar? tik ?oti nemaz netirina, bet
nedaudz raustekl?gi uzvedas pie minim?li nospiesta akseleratora, un tad ir
kaifs no?ert liel?kos ??tonus pie statiskiem apgriezieniem un izmantot
pa?trin?juma.

2017-04-11 15:59 GMT+03:00 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv>:

> Bet p?c salona kvalit?tes i nepateiksi ? k? esmu las?jis, tad dikti grab
> un salona kvalit?te dra???g?ka ka korejie?u masu auto.
>
>
>
> ?irts
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:
> autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On Behalf Of *Smic
> _
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 2:35 PM
>
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
>
>
> Nu pie t? punkta 2 t? ?sti piekrist nevar. Ferrari par l?tu mazma??n?ti
> nenosauksi ?. ?
>
>
>
> *From: *?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv>
> *Sent: *otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47
> *To: *'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject: *[Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu
> braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem
> un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam
> katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
>
>    1. Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir
>    gana ok.
>    2. Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k
>    nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz?
>    poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas
>    ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek
>    drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek?
>    standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir
>    autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja
>    pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s
>    mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien
>    un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
>    3. Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida
>    ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k?
>    ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ?
>    iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet
>    motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu
>    optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na
>    pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j
>    sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet
>    auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus
>    ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts.
>    Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir
>    tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m
>    un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir
>    iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem,
>    tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
>    4. Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem
>    citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem.
>    Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar
>    otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru
>    nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir
>    vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs,
>    pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u,
>    kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
>
>
>
> Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un
> pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki.
> Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz
> ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ?
> t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t?
> gad?juma.
>
>
>
> Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu
> lasot -
>
> ?irts
>
> VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [
> mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv
> <autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv>] *On Behalf
> Of *Vineta Rubene
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
> *To:* 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du
> probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
>
>
> Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un
> autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par
> autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>
> Vineta
>
> Volvo S60 2001
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [
> mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
> <autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>] *On
> Behalf Of *Martins
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
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From: vineta.rubene at gmail.com (Vineta Rubene)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:49:12 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)

No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u pr?t?.
:)

S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.

Vineta
Volvo S60, 2002


2017-04-11 12:16 GMT+03:00 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv>:

> Visp?r par truckiem es ?pa?i neiedzi?in?jos, jo man lik?s, ka Vineta nez
> vai savu Volvo S60 grib main?t pret Volvo vilc?ju.
>
>
>
> ?irts
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:
> autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On Behalf Of *
> raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:50 AM
> *To:* Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com>; Viss par un ap auto! <
> autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> TRUCK div?zij? ?is jau ir nosl?p?ts ?oti augst? l?men?. Da?i labi
> pasaziervageni var?tu pam?c?ties.
>
>
>
> Ramonz,
>
> ?ad tad ACTROS pilots.
>
>
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
>
>
> *No: *Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com>
> *Nos?t?ts: *otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 11:11
> *Kam: *Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Kur tie citi tur es ar...
>
>
>
> Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un visu
> p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga atlai?anu,
> p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara robots, nevis
> pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana
> smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?),
> tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.
>
> Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas
> pl?denums bij lieliski.
>
>
>
> Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus
> pils?tas bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.
>
>
>
> Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits
> slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)
>
>
>
> 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv> rakst?ja:
>
> Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu
> braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem
> un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam
> katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
>
> 1.      Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu,
> ir gana ok.
>
> 2.      Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k
> nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz?
> poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas
> ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek
> drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek?
> standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir
> autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja
> pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s
> mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien
> un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
>
> 3.      Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida
> ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k?
> ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ?
> iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet
> motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu
> optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na
> pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j
> sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet
> auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus
> ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts.
> Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir
> tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m
> un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir
> iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem,
> tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
>
> 4.      Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem
> citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem.
> Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar
> otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru
> nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir
> vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs,
> pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u,
> kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
>
>
>
> Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un
> pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki.
> Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz
> ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ?
> t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t?
> gad?juma.
>
>
>
> Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu
> lasot -
>
> ?irts
>
> VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:
> autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On Behalf Of *Vineta
> Rubene
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
> *To:* 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du
> probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?.
>
> Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un
> autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par
> autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>
> Vineta
>
> Volvo S60 2001
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [
> mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
> <autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>] *On
> Behalf Of *Martins
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra
> benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju
> apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu
> ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k
> dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties
> sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet
> atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un
> brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
> autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t?
> ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu
> brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>
>
> 2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
>
> ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
> ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
> p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
> j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
> M.
>
> On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
> >
>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Karlis
>
>
>
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From: richlv at nakts.net (Rihards)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:55:59 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :) 
> 
> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
> pr?t?. :)
> 
> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju. 

cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?

> Vineta
> Volvo S60, 2002
...
-- 
 Rihards


From raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 16:58:40 2017
From: raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com (raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:58:40 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.:  Re: Atb.:  Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Es par k?rbu robotizaciju..))

ramonz

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts darbam ar Windows 10

No: ?irts 
Nos?t?ts: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 12:17
Kam: 'Viss par un ap auto!'
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Visp?r par truckiem es ?pa?i neiedzi?in?jos, jo man lik?s, ka Vineta nez vai savu Volvo S60 grib main?t pret Volvo vilc?ju.

?irts

From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:50 AM
To: Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com>; Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

TRUCK div?zij? ?is jau ir nosl?p?ts ?oti augst? l?men?. Da?i labi pasaziervageni var?tu pam?c?ties.

Ramonz,
?ad tad ACTROS pilots.

Nos?t?ts no: Pasts darbam ar Windows 10

No: Karlis
Nos?t?ts: otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 11:11
Kam: Viss par un ap auto!
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Kur tie citi tur es ar...

Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un visu p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga atlai?anu, p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara robots, nevis pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?), tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.
Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas pl?denums bij lieliski.

Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus pils?tas bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.

Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv> rakst?ja:
Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
1.????? Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu, ir gana ok.
2.????? Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us pareiz? poz?cij?.? Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas, kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts, pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk? k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis dinamika.
3.????? Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
4.????? Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di, ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt). Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
?
Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki, bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku. L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.
?
Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o sacer?jumu lasot - 
?irts
VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
?
From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
To: 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
?
Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas?. 
Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
Vineta
Volvo S60 2001
?
From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Martins
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
?
Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls: mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret? lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz.... ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?, var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g? visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un saj?gam nepat?k.
?
2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com <lordramex at gmail.com>:
ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok, kad s?k
?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja, beigas lupo
p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu

M.

On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t? ? Iespaidi ?
>

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From vineta.rubene at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 16:58:51 2017
From: vineta.rubene at gmail.com (Vineta Rubene)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:58:51 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
bijis ar? 13.
Vineta

2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:

> On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> > Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
> >
> > No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
> > pr?t?. :)
> >
> > S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
> > nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
>
> cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
>
> > Vineta
> > Volvo S60, 2002
> ...
> --
>  Rihards
>
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From richlv at nakts.net  Tue Apr 11 17:03:03 2017
From: richlv at nakts.net (Rihards)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:03:03 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
> bijis ar? 13.

ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i nesatrauc

> Vineta
> 
> 2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net
> <mailto:richlv at nakts.net>>:
> 
>     On 2017.04.11. 16 <tel:2017.04.11.%2016>:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>     > Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>     >
>     > No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
>     > pr?t?. :)
>     >
>     > S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
>     > nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
> 
>     cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
> 
>     > Vineta
>     > Volvo S60, 2002
>     ...
>     --
>      Rihards
...
-- 
 Rihards


From ginc at pie-dabas.net  Tue Apr 11 17:05:16 2017
From: ginc at pie-dabas.net (Ginc)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:05:16 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Nu sievas A180CDI pagaid?m vid?jais ir 6.1. Bet tas ir par mar?rutu
Garciems-Centrs- P?rdaugava un atpaka?. Piln?g? kor?u re??m? r?da ap 8,2

G.

On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
> bijis ar? 13.
> Vineta
> 
> 2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
> 
>> On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>>> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>>>
>>> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
>>> pr?t?. :)
>>>
>>> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
>>> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
>>
>> cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
>>
>>> Vineta
>>> Volvo S60, 2002
>> ...
>> --
>>  Rihards
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Autoliste mailing list
>> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
>>
> 
> 
> 
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From listes at mediaservice.lv  Tue Apr 11 17:49:37 2017
From: listes at mediaservice.lv (ArnisR)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:49:37 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Ja gribas mazauto ar labu autom?tu un bez pat?ri?a pieauguma pils?t?, tad var skat?ties ar? uz Honda Jazz.
Tiem ir variators (CVT).
>10 g laik? tikai regul?r?s apkopes, brem?u klu?i un izdegu??s spuldz?tes main?tas. (Ekspluat?ts pamat? tika mazpils?t?). L?dz?ga atsauksme par to, ka nekas 10 g. laik? nav main?ts, ir par Civic dzird?ta. Ar to gan pa R?gu un gan pa ?rzem?m brauk?.
Jazz ir ietilp?gs. Pat ?oti, ja nebrauc ?etrat?.

No m?nusiem ? nav p?r?k ?iprs >90km/h segment?, slikta ska?as izol?cija. Braucot pa granteni, saj?ta k? konservbund?? (pierast varJ)
Runa par 2005. gada modeli.  Par jauno nezinu.

A



 

From: autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:59 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto!
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir bijis ar? 13. 

Vineta

 

2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:

On 2017.04.11. 16 <tel:2017.04.11.%2016> :49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>
> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
> pr?t?. :)
>
> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.

cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?

> Vineta
> Volvo S60, 2002
...
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From instigater at projektam.lv  Tue Apr 11 18:25:41 2017
From: instigater at projektam.lv (Instigater)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:25:41 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Es par motoriem ar 1000+ ??toniem un 16tk apgriezieniem. Ja v?l tur pa 
vidu vismaz 2 ?trumu k?rbu iemont?tu (k?reiz tikai robotiz?t? tur ar? 
der?tu), b?tu ne tikai spridzeklis, bet ar? autob??u karalis.


On 2017.04.11. 16:58, raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Es par k?rbu robotizaciju..))
>
> ramonz
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> 
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
> *No: *?irts <mailto:girts.karnitis at di.lv>
> *Nos?t?ts: *otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 12:17
> *Kam: *'Viss par un ap auto!' <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
> Visp?r par truckiem es ?pa?i neiedzi?in?jos, jo man lik?s, ka Vineta 
> nez vai savu Volvo S60 grib main?t pret Volvo vilc?ju.
>
> ?irts
>
> *From:*autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv 
> [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On 
> Behalf Of *raimonds.vilkss at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:50 AM
> *To:* Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com>; Viss par un ap auto! 
> <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
> TRUCK div?zij? ?is jau ir nosl?p?ts ?oti augst? l?men?. Da?i labi 
> pasaziervageni var?tu pam?c?ties.
>
> Ramonz,
>
> ?ad tad ACTROS pilots.
>
> Nos?t?ts no: Pasts <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> 
> darbam ar Windows 10
>
> *No: *Karlis <mailto:karlisd at gmail.com>
> *Nos?t?ts: *otrdiena, 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 11:11
> *Kam: *Viss par un ap auto! <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
> *T?ma: *[Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
> Kur tie citi tur es ar...
>
> Esmu pieredz?jis k? f?r? (MAN) robom?ts sl?dz robus, uzs?k braukt un 
> visu p?r?jo... Nu tur viss bija labi nostr?d?ts - tik maigu saj?ga 
> atlai?anu, p?c ska??m un gaitas visp?r nevar pateikt, ka to dara 
> robots, nevis pieredz?jis ?oferis... Pie f?res slodz?m, stipri 
> nodilsot saj?gam uzs?k?ana smagos apst?k?os paliekot drusku tirekl?ga 
> (k? ar lufti - uzdod, palai?), tom?r t? esot saj?ga, nevis robota vaina.
>
> Protams, f?r? par dinamiku nevar run?t, toties ilgm???ba un gaitas 
> pl?denums bij lieliski.
>
> Variators iek? JAZZ - skaista brauk?ana, bet ar to 1,3motoru ?rpus 
> pils?tas bija ??b?gi. Nezinu k? remontos.
>
> Autom?ti k? jau autom?ti - nav j?maina saj?gu, cits lab?k sl?das cits 
> slikt?k, bet remont?t vi?us negrib?tos :)
>
> 2017. gada 11. apr?lis 10:47 ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv 
> <mailto:girts.karnitis at di.lv>> rakst?ja:
>
>     Manas divas kapeikas, k? no razvrat?ika-tjeoretjika (visu m??u
>     esmu braucis tikai ar rokas k?rbu, bet es daudz lasu vis?dus
>     uzrakstus uz ?ogiem un ???n??iem). Eksist? vair?ki principi?li
>     at??ir?gi autom?tu tipi (pie kam katrs ra?ot?js izdom? savu firmas
>     nosaukumu tam pa?am dzelzgabalam):
>
>     1.Klasiskais hidrauliskais autom?ts. Paz?stams gandr?z simts gadu,
>     ir gana ok.
>
>     2.Robotiz?t? meh?nika. T? pati meh?nisk? k?rba, bet auto pats m?k
>     nospiest saj?gu un p?rb?d?t ??trumklo?i? (sab?d?t zobrati?us
>     pareiz? poz?cij?.  Galvenie plusi ? l?ts ra?o?an? (faktiski pie
>     meh?nisk?s k?rbas ar minim?l?m izmai??m prisoba?ivajut tos
>     b?d??anas meh?nismus un ieliek drusku l?tu ??nie?u elektronikas,
>     kas to visu vada) ? krietni l?t?k, nek? standarta autom?ts,
>     pat?ri?? ar? ?pa?i nemain?s. Bet var teikt, ka ir autom?tisk?
>     k?rba, nav saj?gs j?spaida un klo?is j?rausta. K? jau min?ja pie
>     tr?kumiem ? parasti ir stipri l?ns un tizls. Parasti liek l?t?s
>     mazma??n?t?s, vairumam dai?? dzimuma pat?k, jo vi?as t?pat nekur
>     neskrien un vi??m svar?g?ka ir iesp?ja nesl?gt ?trumus, nevis
>     dinamika.
>
>     3.Variators. Ver?is, kas ar vilt?ga meh?nisma pal?dz?bu
>     (konusveida ???vji, kas saspie? ???veida siksnu) ?auj izveidot
>     jebk?du p?rnesumu, k? ar? to pl?deni main?t, k? rezult?t? var
>     ieg?t efektu, k?ds ir motorlaiv?m ? iesl?dzam motoru uz
>     konstantiem apgriezieniem, laiva uz?em ?trumu, bet motora ?trums
>     nemain?s un tas vienm?r?gi gaudo. Faktiski tas b?tu optim?lais
>     ekspluat?cijas veids (apgriezieni, pie kuriem jauda/benz?na
>     pat?ri?? ir vislab?kais), diem??l cilv?ki ir nervozas b?tnes un
>     nesp?j sagremot faktu, ka motors vienm?r?gi d?c, motora
>     apgriezieni nemain?s, bet auto brauc arvien ?tr?k un ?tr?k. T?p?c
>     elektronisk? ieliek ie??tus ?p?rnesumus? un faktiski tas variators
>     tiek pak?pienveid?gi darbin?ts. Plusi ? degvielas pat?ri?? t?ds
>     pats, k? meh?nikai. M?nusi ? meh?nisms ir tik sare???ts, ka
>     problem?tiski p?rvad?t lielu jaudu, t?p?c uz ?oti smag?m un
>     jaud?g?m ma??n?m neliek. S?kotn?ji nebija diez ko iztur?gs, tagad
>     ir iem?c?ju?ies tais?t gana iztur?gus. S?kotn?ji t?di bija tikai
>     jap??iem, tagad ar? citi ra?ot?ji to izmanto.
>
>     4.Divsaj?gu autom?ts. S?kotn?ji VW ra?ojums, tagad ir ar? da?iem
>     citiem. Faktiski t? ir robotiz?ta meh?nika, bet ar diviem
>     saj?giem. Rezult?t?, kad grib p?rsl?gt ?trumus, tad no viena
>     p?rnesuma neiz?emot ar otru saj?gu piesl?dz otru p?rnesumu un tad
>     vienu saj?gu atlai?, otru nospie?. Rezult?t? faktiski nej?t br?di,
>     ka main?s p?rnesumi (jauda ir vienm?r), minim?li ietekm? degvielas
>     pat?ri?u. M?nusi ? sal?dzino?i d?rgs, pirmie mode?i ?tri nopl?sa
>     (k? nek? tur divreiz vair?k vis?du ?imerti?u, kam nospr?gt).
>     Pa?laik ir iem?c?ju?ies to ver?i tais?t un ir gana iztur?gs.
>
>     Bet. Kopum? var teikt, ka robotiz?t? meh?niska parasti ir ne p?r?k
>     ?tra un pat?kama, bet l?ta. P?r?jie ir lieto?anas zi?? pat?kam?ki,
>     bet d?rg?ki. Tom?r, ir j?skat?s konkr?t? marka, modelis un motora
>     tilpums, jo ?oti daudz ir atkar?gs no t?, k? noregul? elektroniku.
>     L?dz ar to pateikt visp?r?gi ? t?di autom?ti ir labi, ?it?di
>     slikti ? nevar. Tas ir atkar?gs no konkr?t? gad?juma.
>
>     Cerot, ka j?s neko neieguv?t, tikai not?r?j?t p?ris min?tes ?o
>     sacer?jumu lasot -
>
>     ?irts
>
>     VW Touran 2.0TDI, 2016 (meh?nika)
>
>     *From:*autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv
>     <mailto:di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv>[mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis
>     <mailto:autoliste-bounces%2Bgirts.karnitis>=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv
>     <mailto:di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv>] *On Behalf Of *Vineta Rubene
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 PM
>     *To:* 'Viss par un ap auto!' <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>     <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>>
>     *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>     Vai Volvo S60 ir vien?gais norm?lais autom?ts? Man tie??m nav
>     nek?du probl?mu ar ?nospie?u gr?d? g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku
>     vair?k dinamikas?.
>
>     Jaut?jums ir pavisam re?ls, jo agri vai v?lu b?s j?dom? par citu
>     auto, un autom?ts pat?k ? labpr?t ?emtu atkal. Bet klausoties
>     briesmu st?stus par autom?tiem, nesaprotu, ko dar?t.
>
>     Vineta
>
>     Volvo S60 2001
>
>     *From:*autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv
>     <mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv>[mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv]
>     *On Behalf Of *Martins
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 8:56 PM
>     *To:* Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>     <mailto:autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>>
>     *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>     Esmu braucis ar Toiojta Auris robo autom?tu ar kautk?du vid?ja
>     izm?ra benz?nmotoru. Nokrist?ju to par N?ves Kapsulu. Iemesls:
>     mier?gi pa ?oseju apdzenu god?gi brauco?u f?ri, pamanu ka pret?
>     lido lidot?js. Vajadz?tu ?tr?k aizv?kties: nospie?u gr?d?
>     g?zped?li lai dab?tu drusku vair?k dinamikas un pabeigtu manevru
>     ?tr?k - robom?ts mier?gi un nesteidzoties sl?dz, un sl?dz....
>     ??ita ?oti ilgi. Rezult?t? nevis pabeidzu manevru, bet atc?lu. J?,
>     var?tu teikt, ka nebiju ??mis v?r? t?du gauner?gumu un brauk?anas
>     apst?k?us. Bet b?tu man tas pats auto ar rokas k?rbu vai norm?lu
>     autom?tu, manevrs b?tu pabeigts. Cit?di - robom?ts ?rti sl?g?
>     visu, pils?t? ?rti un labi, vien?gi ?ooti l?na vilk?an?s
>     sastr?gum? ar pusnospiestu brem?ped?li laikam tai k?rbai un
>     saj?gam nepat?k.
>
>     2017-04-10 20:37 GMT+03:00 lordramex at gmail.com
>     <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com> <lordramex at gmail.com
>     <mailto:lordramex at gmail.com>>:
>
>         ir braukts ar lupo kam bij robotom?ts, kam?r str?d? - ir ok,
>         kad s?k
>         ?akareties tad b?du leja - un salabot princip? nevar?ja,
>         beigas lupo
>         p?rtapa par manu?li - kas ar nemaks?ja maz... ja n?kamais auto
>         j?izv?las auto tad es no robottom?ta pa gabalu
>
>         M.
>
>         On 10/04/2017, Smic _ <klusais07 at hotmail.com
>         <mailto:klusais07 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>         >
>         > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain?
>         Selespeed.
>         > Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ?
>         Iespaidi ?
>         >
>
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>
> -- 
>
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>
>
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From karlisd at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 18:46:32 2017
From: karlisd at gmail.com (Karlis)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:46:32 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Varu tikai piekrist par Jazz. L?dz 60 iet (un tie??m -  vario re??m?
apgriezini st?v uz vietas, ?trums ce?as). 7-robu re??ms ar flapp?pad?iem -
bezj?dz?gs. Virs 90 - bremzes paliek par v?ju, bet tas netrauc?, jo motors
ir tik v?j?, ka lai k?dus ?trumus sasniegtu, ir j?aprod ar paciet?bu. T?rs
pils?tas auto sav? b?t?b?, bet - ja negrib skriet - ietilp?gs un praktisks
variants aizbraukt ar? uz laukiem, ja nav j?steidzas. Somas var salikt zem
paka?be??a utt.

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 17:49 ArnisR <listes at mediaservice.lv> rakst?ja:

> Ja gribas mazauto ar labu autom?tu un bez pat?ri?a pieauguma pils?t?, tad
> var skat?ties ar? uz Honda Jazz.
> Tiem ir variators (CVT).
> >10 g laik? tikai regul?r?s apkopes, brem?u klu?i un izdegu??s spuldz?tes
> main?tas. (Ekspluat?ts pamat? tika mazpils?t?). L?dz?ga atsauksme par to,
> ka nekas 10 g. laik? nav main?ts, ir par Civic dzird?ta. Ar to gan pa R?gu
> un gan pa ?rzem?m brauk?.
> Jazz ir ietilp?gs. Pat ?oti, ja nebrauc ?etrat?.
>
> No m?nusiem ? nav p?r?k ?iprs >90km/h segment?, slikta ska?as izol?cija.
> Braucot pa granteni, saj?ta k? konservbund?? (pierast varJ)
> Runa par 2005. gada modeli.  Par jauno nezinu.
>
> A
>
>
>
> *From:* autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv
> [mailto:autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] *On
> Behalf Of *Vineta Rubene
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:59 PM
> *To:* Viss par un ap auto!
> *Subject:* [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
>
>
>
> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
> bijis ar? 13.
>
> Vineta
>
>
>
> 2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
>
> On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> > Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
> >
> > No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
> > pr?t?. :)
> >
> > S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
> > nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
>
> cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
>
> > Vineta
> > Volvo S60, 2002
> ...
> --
>  Rihards
>
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From listes at mediaservice.lv  Tue Apr 11 19:21:02 2017
From: listes at mediaservice.lv (ArnisR)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 19:21:02 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Ir ar to Jazzu braukts l?dz It?lijai un pa kalnu p?rej?m 3 km augstum?. Ir ok. Uz DE b??iem tik reiz?m saj?ta k? pastar?tim J Bet kemperiem gar?m iet mier?gi. 160-165 km/h ir izspiestsJ
7-robu re??ms tie??m bezj?dz?ga sp??manti?a (vismaz m?su apst?k?os). M??in?ju kalnos ar tiem ?trumiem bremz?t, bet to mazo motoru tik viegli izgriezt, ka t?pat uz tahometru nemit?gi j?blen? un uz bremz?m j?spie?. Dro??k nemaz tos ?trumus neaiztikt.
V?l ir lab?ks tas  S(port) re??ms - pils?t? j?tami pie??ir ?irgtumu.

A

 

From: autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Karlis
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:47 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto!
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Varu tikai piekrist par Jazz. L?dz 60 iet (un tie??m -  vario re??m? apgriezini st?v uz vietas, ?trums ce?as). 7-robu re??ms ar flapp?pad?iem - bezj?dz?gs. Virs 90 - bremzes paliek par v?ju, bet tas netrauc?, jo motors ir tik v?j?, ka lai k?dus ?trumus sasniegtu, ir j?aprod ar paciet?bu. T?rs pils?tas auto sav? b?t?b?, bet - ja negrib skriet - ietilp?gs un praktisks variants aizbraukt ar? uz laukiem, ja nav j?steidzas. Somas var salikt zem paka?be??a utt.

 

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 17:49 ArnisR <listes at mediaservice.lv> rakst?ja:

Ja gribas mazauto ar labu autom?tu un bez pat?ri?a pieauguma pils?t?, tad var skat?ties ar? uz Honda Jazz.
Tiem ir variators (CVT).
>10 g laik? tikai regul?r?s apkopes, brem?u klu?i un izdegu??s spuldz?tes main?tas. (Ekspluat?ts pamat? tika mazpils?t?). L?dz?ga atsauksme par to, ka nekas 10 g. laik? nav main?ts, ir par Civic dzird?ta. Ar to gan pa R?gu un gan pa ?rzem?m brauk?.
Jazz ir ietilp?gs. Pat ?oti, ja nebrauc ?etrat?.

No m?nusiem ? nav p?r?k ?iprs >90km/h segment?, slikta ska?as izol?cija. Braucot pa granteni, saj?ta k? konservbund?? (pierast varJ)
Runa par 2005. gada modeli.  Par jauno nezinu.

A

 

From: autoliste-bounces+listes=mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+listes <mailto:autoliste-bounces%2Blistes> =mediaservice.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Vineta Rubene
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:59 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto!
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir bijis ar? 13. 

Vineta

 

2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:

On 2017.04.11. 16 <tel:2017.04.11.%2016> :49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>
> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
> pr?t?. :)
>
> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.

cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?

> Vineta
> Volvo S60, 2002
...
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From talivaldis at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 19:59:11 2017
From: talivaldis at gmail.com (Talivaldis)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 19:59:11 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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oj manejais V70 v?l tik daudz nav sasniedzis
pagaid?m ap 6.1
T.

2017-04-11 17:03 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
> On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
>> bijis ar? 13.
>
> ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i nesatrauc
>
-
>  Rihards


From lordramex at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 20:01:37 2017
From: lordramex at gmail.com (lordramex at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:01:37 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Man ir aizdomas ka tas S60 ir ar benc?na dzinuli :)

M.

2017-04-11 19:59 GMT+03:00 Talivaldis <talivaldis at gmail.com>:

> oj manejais V70 v?l tik daudz nav sasniedzis
> pagaid?m ap 6.1
> T.
>
> 2017-04-11 17:03 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
> > On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> >> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
> >> bijis ar? 13.
> >
> > ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i
> nesatrauc
> >
> -
> >  Rihards
>
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From richlv at nakts.net  Tue Apr 11 20:02:07 2017
From: richlv at nakts.net (Rihards)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:02:07 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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On 2017.04.11. 19:59, Talivaldis wrote:
> oj manejais V70 v?l tik daudz nav sasniedzis
> pagaid?m ap 6.1

nu, tas v70 tiek lietots ?oti netaup?g? veid? :)

visp?r nav skaidrs, cik prec?zs tas ieb?v?tais pat?ri?a m?r?t?js ir.
vi?? ?em v?r? re?li pat?r?to, ieskaitot atsevi??o kr?sni?u ?

> T.
> 
> 2017-04-11 17:03 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
>> On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>>> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
>>> bijis ar? 13.
>>
>> ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i nesatrauc
>>
> -
>>  Rihards
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From martini.zupa at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 20:40:46 2017
From: martini.zupa at gmail.com (Martins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:40:46 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Melo vi??, iun vismaz par litru, un tas ir bez kr?sns v?l (vasar?,
piem?ram). Man ir S80, ar visu apkures kr?sni, un dinamisks brauk?anas
stils (citi saka ka k?ja smaga, kas, protams, nav taisn?ba ;-) ). Nekad nav
izdevies sasniegt to pat?ri?u, ko displejs r?da, ticam?kie m?r?jumi tom?r
ir no pilnas b?kas l?dz pilnai b?kai + aritm?tika galv?.

2017-04-11 20:02 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:

> On 2017.04.11. 19:59, Talivaldis wrote:
> > oj manejais V70 v?l tik daudz nav sasniedzis
> > pagaid?m ap 6.1
>
> nu, tas v70 tiek lietots ?oti netaup?g? veid? :)
>
> visp?r nav skaidrs, cik prec?zs tas ieb?v?tais pat?ri?a m?r?t?js ir.
> vi?? ?em v?r? re?li pat?r?to, ieskaitot atsevi??o kr?sni?u ?
>
> > T.
> >
> > 2017-04-11 17:03 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
> >> On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> >>> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem
> ir
> >>> bijis ar? 13.
> >>
> >> ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i
> nesatrauc
> >>
> > -
> >>  Rihards
> --
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From vineta.rubene at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 20:46:18 2017
From: vineta.rubene at gmail.com (Vineta Rubene)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:46:18 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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J?, protams. Man liekas, ka pie mana brauk?anas ?apjoma? nav v?rts dom?t par d?zeli. 

Vineta

 

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of lordramex at gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:02 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

Man ir aizdomas ka tas S60 ir ar benc?na dzinuli :)

 

M.

 

2017-04-11 19:59 GMT+03:00 Talivaldis <talivaldis at gmail.com <mailto:talivaldis at gmail.com> >:

oj manejais V70 v?l tik daudz nav sasniedzis
pagaid?m ap 6.1
T.

2017-04-11 17:03 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net <mailto:richlv at nakts.net> >:
> On 2017.04.11. 16 <tel:2017.04.11.%2016> :58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem ir
>> bijis ar? 13.
>
> ah, tad saprotu. v70 govs r?da, ka ?d vid?ji 7 uz simtu, kas ?pa?i nesatrauc
>
-

>  Rihards

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From karlisd at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 21:41:59 2017
From: karlisd at gmail.com (Karlis)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:41:59 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste]
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Sveiciens list?!


Ko vislab?k lietot, lai dab?tu va?? Thules jumta reli?u sl?dzenes? Pa ziemu
un citiem apst?k?iem k?uvu?as st?vas, baidos nolauzt mazo atsl?dzi?u. WD-40
un citus putek?u pievilin?t?jus ar? negrib?tos tur laist iek??.

Gan jau jaut?jums 100x te apmu???ts un tom?r...

Pie viena jaut?jums - kur Thules velo tur?t?jiem mekl?t rezerves da?as?
Riepas tur?t?js ?or?t pavisam izjuka. Ja no weba - cik maks? pieg?des?



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From martini.zupa at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 21:47:00 2017
From: martini.zupa at gmail.com (Martins)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:47:00 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re:
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Lock de-iceri parasti ir ar e??u, varu pal?dz?t izmazg?t

On 11 Apr 2017 21:42, "Karlis" <karlisd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sveiciens list?!
>
>
> Ko vislab?k lietot, lai dab?tu va?? Thules jumta reli?u sl?dzenes? Pa
> ziemu un citiem apst?k?iem k?uvu?as st?vas, baidos nolauzt mazo atsl?dzi?u.
> WD-40 un citus putek?u pievilin?t?jus ar? negrib?tos tur laist iek??.
>
> Gan jau jaut?jums 100x te apmu???ts un tom?r...
>
> Pie viena jaut?jums - kur Thules velo tur?t?jiem mekl?t rezerves da?as?
> Riepas tur?t?js ?or?t pavisam izjuka. Ja no weba - cik maks? pieg?des?
>
>
>
> --
> Karlis
>
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From karlisd at gmail.com  Tue Apr 11 21:51:53 2017
From: karlisd at gmail.com (Karlis)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:51:53 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re:
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	=?utf-8?q?m_+_thule_rezerves_da=C4=BCas?=
In-Reply-To: <CAHSLF7ef8ME=hYtt1OchvHyj2MKYgJL2iHKZXuHED5FkMa2ceQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADUFVN+tPsxpzZUdvVhd9iW2CBP6e9DU1UtizX92=Wn2nzA-2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHSLF7ef8ME=hYtt1OchvHyj2MKYgJL2iHKZXuHED5FkMa2ceQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Nav kaut k?ds l?dzeklis ko tur ieg?zt?

Es te pa Vidzemes pla?umiem dz?vojos, Nila ciem? man maz dar?m?...

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 21:47 Martins <martini.zupa at gmail.com> rakst?ja:

> Lock de-iceri parasti ir ar e??u, varu pal?dz?t izmazg?t
>
> On 11 Apr 2017 21:42, "Karlis" <karlisd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sveiciens list?!
>>
>>
>> Ko vislab?k lietot, lai dab?tu va?? Thules jumta reli?u sl?dzenes? Pa
>> ziemu un citiem apst?k?iem k?uvu?as st?vas, baidos nolauzt mazo atsl?dzi?u.
>> WD-40 un citus putek?u pievilin?t?jus ar? negrib?tos tur laist iek??.
>>
>> Gan jau jaut?jums 100x te apmu???ts un tom?r...
>>
>> Pie viena jaut?jums - kur Thules velo tur?t?jiem mekl?t rezerves da?as?
>> Riepas tur?t?js ?or?t pavisam izjuka. Ja no weba - cik maks? pieg?des?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karlis
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
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>>
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From tornis at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 09:52:25 2017
From: tornis at gmail.com (Tornis)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:52:25 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
In-Reply-To: <014601d2b2d2$d7cd54c0$8767fe40$@mediaservice.lv>
References: <AM3PR01MB17988D23FD5AE0C27BAD023B2010@AM3PR01MB179.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CA+mPWc_xxCm35+vTMQrddKefBJUn3J6dcPGZKuhaAY3ziF+2bQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHSLF7dhcR4_Fp9ntMzFFXKim9MJPqeN3Z5mnvk12aFqKSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<006f01d2b224$d12ab710$73802530$@gmail.com>
	<000e01d2b297$d42b0280$7c810780$@di.lv>
	<CADUFVNJ6Jd5GdnwFJ+6k1BjhyD=edet-ZiJH9nHV7SRGeR_QzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<58ec98b9.548d190a.47f0b.2450@mx.google.com>
	<005701d2b2a4$627940e0$276bc2a0$@di.lv>
	<CAFg4ND4LeY92JLx2fud0bFutNPqw3BqqfFP9q1b=o5mCtcBASw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9c291656-6db4-37ec-ece0-e6b95d469e99@nakts.net>
	<CAFg4ND75PtF1yQ0N30u=4XSVpWyt01fSYuFhA329V4rkKDFfcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<014601d2b2d2$d7cd54c0$8767fe40$@mediaservice.lv>
Message-ID: <CCFD2235-CA2F-4498-BA31-AF6D56D96E88@gmail.com>

hehe es ?obr?d skatos borta dator? - 12.8 vid?jais :) pens?ns, autom?ts :)

From karlisd at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 10:08:45 2017
From: karlisd at gmail.com (Karlis)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 10:08:45 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
In-Reply-To: <CCFD2235-CA2F-4498-BA31-AF6D56D96E88@gmail.com>
References: <AM3PR01MB17988D23FD5AE0C27BAD023B2010@AM3PR01MB179.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CA+mPWc_xxCm35+vTMQrddKefBJUn3J6dcPGZKuhaAY3ziF+2bQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHSLF7dhcR4_Fp9ntMzFFXKim9MJPqeN3Z5mnvk12aFqKSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<006f01d2b224$d12ab710$73802530$@gmail.com>
	<000e01d2b297$d42b0280$7c810780$@di.lv>
	<CADUFVNJ6Jd5GdnwFJ+6k1BjhyD=edet-ZiJH9nHV7SRGeR_QzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<58ec98b9.548d190a.47f0b.2450@mx.google.com>
	<005701d2b2a4$627940e0$276bc2a0$@di.lv>
	<CAFg4ND4LeY92JLx2fud0bFutNPqw3BqqfFP9q1b=o5mCtcBASw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9c291656-6db4-37ec-ece0-e6b95d469e99@nakts.net>
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	<014601d2b2d2$d7cd54c0$8767fe40$@mediaservice.lv>
	<CCFD2235-CA2F-4498-BA31-AF6D56D96E88@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADUFVNLivpn_92QCbVQvYwB+KTMMUoP-nLu-+4b1nkX=x9NetA@mail.gmail.com>

Man piln?gi pret?ji parametri rezult?jas ar 5,1.

2017. gada 12. apr?lis 09:52 Tornis <tornis at gmail.com> rakst?ja:

> hehe es ?obr?d skatos borta dator? - 12.8 vid?jais :) pens?ns, autom?ts :)
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From ozolins90 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 10:42:45 2017
From: ozolins90 at gmail.com (Krisjanis Ozolins)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 07:42:45 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] Re:
	=?utf-8?b?RcS8xLxhIGp1bXRhIGdyYWJhxb5uaWVrdSBzbMSTZHplbsST?=
	=?utf-8?q?m_+_thule_rezerves_da=C4=BCas?=
In-Reply-To: <CADUFVN+tPsxpzZUdvVhd9iW2CBP6e9DU1UtizX92=Wn2nzA-2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADUFVN+tPsxpzZUdvVhd9iW2CBP6e9DU1UtizX92=Wn2nzA-2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN2w79d_2Lh5YyRogkab77xSa7dzCbA0ouoW9eGVUObBjpLx4g@mail.gmail.com>

autoeksperts
astras iel?


On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 21:42, Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sveiciens list?!
>
>
> Ko vislab?k lietot, lai dab?tu va?? Thules jumta reli?u sl?dzenes? Pa
> ziemu un citiem apst?k?iem k?uvu?as st?vas, baidos nolauzt mazo atsl?dzi?u.
> WD-40 un citus putek?u pievilin?t?jus ar? negrib?tos tur laist iek??.
>
> Gan jau jaut?jums 100x te apmu???ts un tom?r...
>
> Pie viena jaut?jums - kur Thules velo tur?t?jiem mekl?t rezerves da?as?
> Riepas tur?t?js ?or?t pavisam izjuka. Ja no weba - cik maks? pieg?des?
>
>
>
> --
> Karlis
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From ginc at pie-dabas.net  Wed Apr 12 11:56:13 2017
From: ginc at pie-dabas.net (Ginc)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:56:13 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re:
 =?utf-8?b?RcS8xLxhIGp1bXRhIGdyYWJhxb5uaWVrdSBzbMSTZHplbsST?=
 =?utf-8?q?m_+_thule_rezerves_da=C4=BCas?=
In-Reply-To: <CAN2w79d_2Lh5YyRogkab77xSa7dzCbA0ouoW9eGVUObBjpLx4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADUFVN+tPsxpzZUdvVhd9iW2CBP6e9DU1UtizX92=Wn2nzA-2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN2w79d_2Lh5YyRogkab77xSa7dzCbA0ouoW9eGVUObBjpLx4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6437fd21-aaaa-a5a3-7da8-562eaf33228d@pie-dabas.net>

Ja atsl?ga JAU iek?rusies, tad bez e??as va?? nedab?si. P?ctam var
izmazg?t un sap?st ar "sauso" teflona pulvera sm?ri.

G.

On 2017.04.12. 10:42, Krisjanis Ozolins wrote:
> autoeksperts
> astras iel?
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 21:42, Karlis <karlisd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sveiciens list?!
>>
>>
>> Ko vislab?k lietot, lai dab?tu va?? Thules jumta reli?u sl?dzenes? Pa
>> ziemu un citiem apst?k?iem k?uvu?as st?vas, baidos nolauzt mazo atsl?dzi?u.
>> WD-40 un citus putek?u pievilin?t?jus ar? negrib?tos tur laist iek??.
>>
>> Gan jau jaut?jums 100x te apmu???ts un tom?r...
>>
>> Pie viena jaut?jums - kur Thules velo tur?t?jiem mekl?t rezerves da?as?
>> Riepas tur?t?js ?or?t pavisam izjuka. Ja no weba - cik maks? pieg?des?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karlis
>> _______________________________________________
>> Autoliste mailing list
>> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
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> 
> 
> 
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From girts.karnitis at di.lv  Wed Apr 12 11:59:32 2017
From: girts.karnitis at di.lv (=?utf-8?Q?=C4=A2irts_?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:59:32 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
In-Reply-To: <4a2113ca-ea06-a54e-8e3e-d80b6d6e8998@pie-dabas.net>
References: <AM3PR01MB17988D23FD5AE0C27BAD023B2010@AM3PR01MB179.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>	<CA+mPWc_xxCm35+vTMQrddKefBJUn3J6dcPGZKuhaAY3ziF+2bQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CAHSLF7dhcR4_Fp9ntMzFFXKim9MJPqeN3Z5mnvk12aFqKSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>	<006f01d2b224$d12ab710$73802530$@gmail.com>	<000e01d2b297$d42b0280$7c810780$@di.lv>	<CADUFVNJ6Jd5GdnwFJ+6k1BjhyD=edet-ZiJH9nHV7SRGeR_QzQ@mail.gmail.com>	<58ec98b9.548d190a.47f0b.2450@mx.google.com>	<005701d2b2a4$627940e0$276bc2a0$@di.lv>	<CAFg4ND4LeY92JLx2fud0bFutNPqw3BqqfFP9q1b=o5mCtcBASw@mail.gmail.com>	<9c291656-6db4-37ec-ece0-e6b95d469e99@nakts.net>	<CAFg4ND75PtF1yQ0N30u=4XSVpWyt01fSYuFhA329V4rkKDFfcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a2113ca-ea06-a54e-8e3e-d80b6d6e8998@pie-dabas.net>
Message-ID: <00b401d2b36b$1d4bdfb0$57e39f10$@di.lv>

Ja jau z?m?ties, tad z?m?ties. Autobuss ziem? 90% distances R?g? - 6,9. Vasar? 50/50 R?ga/?oseja - zem 5,5. Pa ?oseju uz kru?za p?c noteikumiem (uz 90 :)) - 4,3.

?irts
VW Touran 2.0 TDI

-----Original Message-----
From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Ginc
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:05 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Nu sievas A180CDI pagaid?m vid?jais ir 6.1. Bet tas ir par mar?rutu
Garciems-Centrs- P?rdaugava un atpaka?. Piln?g? kor?u re??m? r?da ap 8,2

G.

On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem 
> ir bijis ar? 13.
> Vineta
> 
> 2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
> 
>> On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>>> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>>>
>>> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u 
>>> pr?t?. :)
>>>
>>> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di 
>>> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
>>
>> cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
>>
>>> Vineta
>>> Volvo S60, 2002
>> ...
>> --
>>  Rihards
>>
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> 
> 
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From janis.berzins at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 13 13:48:04 2017
From: janis.berzins at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-4?Q?J=E0nis_B=BArzi=F1=B9?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:48:04 +0000
Subject: [Autoliste] Atb.:  Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed
In-Reply-To: <00b401d2b36b$1d4bdfb0$57e39f10$@di.lv>
References: <AM3PR01MB17988D23FD5AE0C27BAD023B2010@AM3PR01MB179.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<CA+mPWc_xxCm35+vTMQrddKefBJUn3J6dcPGZKuhaAY3ziF+2bQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHSLF7dhcR4_Fp9ntMzFFXKim9MJPqeN3Z5mnvk12aFqKSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<006f01d2b224$d12ab710$73802530$@gmail.com>
	<000e01d2b297$d42b0280$7c810780$@di.lv>
	<CADUFVNJ6Jd5GdnwFJ+6k1BjhyD=edet-ZiJH9nHV7SRGeR_QzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<58ec98b9.548d190a.47f0b.2450@mx.google.com>
	<005701d2b2a4$627940e0$276bc2a0$@di.lv>
	<CAFg4ND4LeY92JLx2fud0bFutNPqw3BqqfFP9q1b=o5mCtcBASw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9c291656-6db4-37ec-ece0-e6b95d469e99@nakts.net>
	<CAFg4ND75PtF1yQ0N30u=4XSVpWyt01fSYuFhA329V4rkKDFfcw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a2113ca-ea06-a54e-8e3e-d80b6d6e8998@pie-dabas.net>,
	<00b401d2b36b$1d4bdfb0$57e39f10$@di.lv>
Message-ID: <AM5PR10MB048250FB2D37BA73249C132EE5020@AM5PR10MB0482.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Mans rekords Liep?ja - R?ga, ?it?ds ir 2 x redz?ts, parasti ap 6.2 - 6.5.


A6Avant 3.0 TDI quattro ar divsaj?gu autom?tu, paldies listesbiedram par smalko aprakstu, nemaz nezin?ju ka t? lietas notiek.


J?nis


________________________________
No: autoliste-bounces+janis.berzins=hotmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv <autoliste-bounces+janis.berzins=hotmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv> ?irts <girts.karnitis at di.lv> v?rd?
Nos?t?ts: tre?diena, 2017. gada 12. apr?lis 11:59
Kam: 'Viss par un ap auto!'
T?ma: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Ja jau z?m?ties, tad z?m?ties. Autobuss ziem? 90% distances R?g? - 6,9. Vasar? 50/50 R?ga/?oseja - zem 5,5. Pa ?oseju uz kru?za p?c noteikumiem (uz 90 :)) - 4,3.

?irts
VW Touran 2.0 TDI

-----Original Message-----
From: autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+girts.karnitis=di.lv at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Ginc
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:05 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Atb.: Re: Alfa un Selespeed

Nu sievas A180CDI pagaid?m vid?jais ir 6.1. Bet tas ir par mar?rutu
Garciems-Centrs- P?rdaugava un atpaka?. Piln?g? kor?u re??m? r?da ap 8,2

G.

On 2017.04.11. 16:58, Vineta Rubene wrote:
> Pa?laik puspils?tas variant? 9,6. T?ri pa pils?tu, uz maziem gabaliem
> ir bijis ar? 13.
> Vineta
>
> 2017-04-11 16:55 GMT+03:00 Rihards <richlv at nakts.net>:
>
>> On 2017.04.11. 16:49, Vineta Rubene wrote:
>>> Paldies, ?irt, par izsme?o?o skaidrojumu, un visiem p?r?jiem ar' :)
>>>
>>> No konkr?tiem auto vien?gais, ko sadzird?ju ir Mercedes A. Patur??u
>>> pr?t?. :)
>>>
>>> S60 ir lieliska ma??na, bet man tik lielu (neekonomisku) uz ?o br?di
>>> nevajag, t? nu pr?toju.
>>
>> cik ta tev tas s60 rij ?
>>
>>> Vineta
>>> Volvo S60, 2002
>> ...
>> --
>>  Rihards
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Autoliste mailing list
>> Autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv
>> http://lists.autoliste.lv/mailman/listinfo/autoliste
>>
>
>
>
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From rupucis at gmail.com  Thu Apr 13 14:38:10 2017
From: rupucis at gmail.com (Kaspars)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:38:10 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
In-Reply-To: <919b3654-40a4-0e66-e16f-0d1b1e038d6b@pie-dabas.net>
References: <AM3PR01MB17988D23FD5AE0C27BAD023B2010@AM3PR01MB179.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<919b3654-40a4-0e66-e16f-0d1b1e038d6b@pie-dabas.net>
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L?dz?gi pirms gadiem 3 g?ja mekl??anas proces?.
Tikai s?k?m no MB Aklases, tad B klasi ... secin?j?m - Opel klus?k r?s?.
T.i. ja nav iesp?jas braukt ar jaunu lidz 3 gadu, nu max. 5 gad?gu, tad MB
izlai?am k? sugu.
Un tas A autom?ts bija dikti gurdens.
Fin?l? tika ieg?d?ts piln?gi nemekl?ts auto - pasaul? liel?kais Golf ar
7robu un divu saj?gu tom?tu.
?pa?niece piln?b? apmierin?ta ar doto agreg?tu :)
K.

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 09:44 Ginc <ginc at pie-dabas.net> rakst?ja:

> Par Alf?m nezinu, bet nupat g?ju cauri sievas auto mekl??anas procesam.
>
> Autom?ts bija oblig?ti vajadz?g? ekstra.
>
> Zvans draugam uz Adamauto (Amserev Krasta) sniedza info ka Opel robots
> ir s?c, kam m?dz beigties elektrisk? vad?bas da?a un ar? saj?gs regul?ri
> j?maina/j?sadraudz? ar autom?tiku.
>
> Izbraucu ar Corsu - nepatika, sl?dz?s d?vaini. Robots uz Astras ar
> liel?ku motoru jau str?d?ja OK, bet piebilde par ieberziena iesp?ju
> palika, ko apstiprin?ja no ECU nolas?t?s k??das.
>
> P?ris Mitsu Colt roboti bija piln?gi pii... Str?d?ja v?l slikt?k k?
> Corsa, turkl?t viens no tiem bija nupat p?rlas?ts ar main?tu saj?gu un
> vad?bas bloku.
>
> Beig?s nopirku A mersi ar variatoru :) Tur ar sl?g?anos viss ir
> lieliski, redz?s cik ilgi izvilks.
>
> G.
>
> On 2017.04.10. 20:34, Smic _ wrote:
> >
> > Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed.
> Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
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From vineta.rubene at gmail.com  Thu Apr 13 18:03:20 2017
From: vineta.rubene at gmail.com (Vineta Rubene)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 18:03:20 +0300
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed
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Paldies par viedokli? Nu, piln?gs trakums. :) B?s j?brauc ar to pa?u Volvo, kam?r izj?k.  

Vineta

Volvo S60, 2.4, 2002

 

From: autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv [mailto:autoliste-bounces+vineta.rubene=gmail.com at lists.autoliste.lv] On Behalf Of Kaspars
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:38 PM
To: Viss par un ap auto! <autoliste at lists.autoliste.lv>
Subject: [Autoliste] Re: Alfa un Selespeed

 

L?dz?gi pirms gadiem 3 g?ja mekl??anas proces?.

Tikai s?k?m no MB Aklases, tad B klasi ... secin?j?m - Opel klus?k r?s?.

T.i. ja nav iesp?jas braukt ar jaunu lidz 3 gadu, nu max. 5 gad?gu, tad MB izlai?am k? sugu.

Un tas A autom?ts bija dikti gurdens.

Fin?l? tika ieg?d?ts piln?gi nemekl?ts auto - pasaul? liel?kais Golf ar 7robu un divu saj?gu tom?tu.

?pa?niece piln?b? apmierin?ta ar doto agreg?tu :)

K.

 

2017. gada 11. apr?lis 09:44 Ginc <ginc at pie-dabas.net <mailto:ginc at pie-dabas.net> > rakst?ja:

Par Alf?m nezinu, bet nupat g?ju cauri sievas auto mekl??anas procesam.

Autom?ts bija oblig?ti vajadz?g? ekstra.

Zvans draugam uz Adamauto (Amserev Krasta) sniedza info ka Opel robots
ir s?c, kam m?dz beigties elektrisk? vad?bas da?a un ar? saj?gs regul?ri
j?maina/j?sadraudz? ar autom?tiku.

Izbraucu ar Corsu - nepatika, sl?dz?s d?vaini. Robots uz Astras ar
liel?ku motoru jau str?d?ja OK, bet piebilde par ieberziena iesp?ju
palika, ko apstiprin?ja no ECU nolas?t?s k??das.

P?ris Mitsu Colt roboti bija piln?gi pii... Str?d?ja v?l slikt?k k?
Corsa, turkl?t viens no tiem bija nupat p?rlas?ts ar main?tu saj?gu un
vad?bas bloku.

Beig?s nopirku A mersi ar variatoru :) Tur ar sl?g?anos viss ir
lieliski, redz?s cik ilgi izvilks.

G.

On 2017.04.10. 20 <tel:2017.04.10.%2020> :34, Smic _ wrote:
>
> Iekrita ac?s viena Alfa Romeo GT. BET ? k?rba ir t? d?vain? Selespeed. Roboautom?ts ?. Ir k?dam gad?jies t?du dz?v? m??in?t  ? Iespaidi ?
>
>
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